Tue 24 Apr 2007
Gotta say, being called an idiot (advisedly) and a jackass on national news by Jack Thompson feels like a special milestone for me. Not so much for the name calling, but just to see good old Jack get all flustered and frustrated.
Interestingly, despite his flat out attempt to ridicule, dismiss and discredit me (as a paid puppet mouthpiece for the game industry), he emailed me with a formal challenge to an on campus debate (see full text below). That, along with a half-dozen other emails with his thoughts and pointers to articles, etc.
One such link he sent over was to the New York Times piece that delved deep into Cho’s silent life. In the lengthy article, video games were mentioned once, in passing. The article, instead focused on his depression, reclusiveness, hatred for the world, etc, etc. To me, the most significant quote was:
You have vandalized my heart, raped my soul and torched my conscience. You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today…
That is complicated stuff that forces society to look deep inside at core issues of how humans behave, etc. Instead, Jack - grasping at straws - clings to the one passing mention of games, and forces anyone in his path to redirect their attention from the complex issues of society and humanity, and points the finger solely on video games.
Sigh. Anyway. Nice to see other media outlets being critical as well as vocal. For example, a choice quote from Heather Chaplin’s op-ed:
To blame violent videogames for this, let alone videogames as a medium, is short sighted, hypocritical, absurd, and, frankly, a little desperate. It’s an argument made by people who fear a medium they don’t understand and want a bogeyman more than they want real answers.
OK, now onto Jack’s challenge…….
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From: “Jack Thompson” amendmentone@comcast.net
Subject: Debate Challenge to IGDA
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:35:15 -0400
Immediate News Release – April 22, 2007
Jack Thompson Challenges Video Game Industry Flak to College Debate about V Tech Massacre
On Monday afternoon, six hours after the Virginia Tech school massacre, anti-violent video game activist and attorney Jack Thompson took to the Fox News Channel and told anchor Bill Hemmer the killer, whose name was not even known, was likely trained on violent video games, given his robot-like efficiency. Thompson noted that the student who was the author of the worst school massacre in world history, until Monday, had trained in Germany on the ultra-violent shooter game Counter-Strike, killing 16 and then himself.
One day later, the Washington Post reported that in fact Cho was a massive player of violent video games, especially Counter-Strike, according to his high school acquaintances. Today’s New York Times reports:
“When Mr. Cho entered Virginia Tech, which is crouched in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwest Virginia, his parents drove him to school with guarded expectations. Perhaps he would no longer retreat to video games and playing basketball alone the way he did at home.”
What are the chances that Cho left his bad video game habits at home along with parental supervision? Slim and none, and Slim just left town.
Besides, all studies now show that the harmful effects of such violent games are long-term.
Thompson was right and has been right since he predicted Columbine on NBC’s Today Show one week before it happened, even identifying the violent video game Doom and the movie with the classroom shooting scene, The Basketball Diaries, that Klebold and Harris were consumed by.
Now the video game industry has struck back at Thompson, again. Jason Della Rocca, spokesperson for the International Game Developers Association, has publicly said of Thompson, “It’s so sad. These massacre chasers — they’re worse than ambulance chasers — they’re waiting for these things to happen so they can jump on their soapbox.”
Actually, Thompson pointed out yesterday on MSNBC, when asked about this libel, that he has been trying to prevent ambulances from being dispatched, trying to save lives, while Mr. Della Rocca and the industry that pays him have been training teen school shooters, dispatching ambulances, and recklessly creating massacres for fun and profit.
Jack Thompson has today challenged Mr. Della Rocca to one or more college debates, anywhere anytime, to discuss whether violent video games in any fashion caused school killings at V Tech, Columbine, Paducah, Jonesboro, Erfurt, Wellsboro, Ft. Myers, Pearl, Tabor, Fairfax, Anchorage, and all the other stops along this trail of tears.
Can Jason Della Rocca refute the brain scan science coming out of Harvard and Indiana Universities that explain this video game copycat phenomenon? What is his rebuttal to the US Supreme Court case striking down the juvenile death penalty that cited those brain scan studies? Is he willing to refute the American Psychological Association formal finding that there is a direct causal link between violent video games and teen aggression?
Or is Mr. Della Rocca, like others who are “spokespersons” for the violent video game industry, a coward who is unwilling to debate these issues in a public forum and not through a press office news release?
Debate, Mr. Della Rocca, debate. Put your mouth where your money is. Stop hiding in your industry’s corporate caves. Either debate or be quiet, as quiet as the people your industry has helped put into the ground.
Contact Jack Thompson at 305-666-4366 to see if Jason Della Rocca has accepted the challenge.
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April 24th, 2007 at 10:40 am
Ridiculous. How can anyone take this man seriously?
And what the hell does “flak” mean anyway? According to the Oxford American Dictionary it can mean either “anti-aircraft fire,” or “strong criticism.” Did he mean to call you a flake? A lackey?
Unfortunately, all confronting him does is add more fuel to the fire; Jack craves attention, and press releases like these are the equivalent of a child holding his breath or writing on the walls. If we ignore him, will he go away?
April 24th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Oh my god. That has to be the worst-written press release I have ever seen. Ever.
April 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Of all the people to call a tool of the industry…
I think Jack’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t actually bother to read anything or actually pay attention to the world around him. Evidence is of no consequence, he’s already reached his verdict before a case even begins. Take Jason for example.
Just look through the archives of RealityPanic, the IGDA, or at what he speaks about at events like GDC or the innumerable other events he attends. He talks about reading more / doing more (I heard what you meant…), it’s about quality of life, it’s about globalization, it’s about real issues facing both developers and non-developers alike. To boil him down to “industry (scare quotes) ’spokesperson’” is just silly.
Jack really needs to just read a little bit more and flap his lips a lot less. Those brain scans he’s talking about are unproven science. Most psych studies looking at violence and games are inconclusive at best. Most simply call for more studies because they didn’t get good conclusive results.
Jason is right. This is a bigger issue than games. It’s cultural. It’s complicated. But obviously that doesn’t please Jack, because he might have to actually read some of these studies then. What about other causes of violence, like religion? Don’t see Jack on a crusade (no pun intended) there do we?
I wish we could just ignore him, but the truth is that media outlets like the attention they get from bringing extremists into full view. What it’s really going to take is a concerted effort to review all of this material. Who’s conducting the studies? Who’s funding the studies? What kind of results do they have? Then at any moment he gets up to speak you simply bring these results to bear on his arguments.
April 24th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
I agree with Darius. But that’s what happens when lawyers write press releases…
April 25th, 2007 at 10:16 am
[…] So Jack has thrown down the gauntlet at IGDA executive director Jason Della Rocca’s feet, challenging him to a debate on how violent video games relate to the Virginia Tech shootings. The sensible side of me (and likely Jason) says that this is a challenge from a desperate media whore that can safely be ignored. The other side of me wishes to see Jack publicly humiliated. Reality Panic: Of Idiots, Jackasses and Red Herrings […]
April 25th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Jason, just ignore him. That’s what Doug did. There’s no reason to give JT anymore publicity that he’s already received. He called Doug a coward numerous times for not accepting his challenge and Doug still wouldn’t budge. That’s the smart thing to do.
I already said this on GP but I’ll say it again. Debating Jack Thompson would only result in giving him more bragging rights. And there’s no need to discredit him as it’s already been done in the media and on the internet. Plus add to the fact that he’s close to being disciplined by the Florida Bar for ethics violations.
Jason, you’re too good to debate him. Don’t waste your time. There’s are much better things to do in life than to argue with that maniac.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:58 am
My best advice is to ensure a good moderator who will control the microphones and the discussion.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:30 am
If there is an online database of astonishingly bad news releases, this could well become a crown jewel of the collection.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
[…] The rush of critics to blame games soon after the Virginia Tech tragedy has been well trodden. And, earlier, I posted Jack Thomspon’s challenge to debate me. Knowing that he’s done this before (though sometimes has backed out) and that he actually has an agent and production company on board, I took his bait and started asking questions about how such a debate would work. […]
April 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
“Can Jason Della Rocca refute the brain scan science coming out of Harvard and Indiana Universities that explain this video game copycat phenomenon?”
Maybe he could if the studies actually explained this so-called “video game copycat phenomenon.”
Let’s start with Harvard. First of all, Thompson’s has the wrong school. Unless he’s talking about Kim Thompson’s ESRB accuracy study, I believe he mean’s Sonya Brady’s University of Pittsburgh study which had 100 college kids (18-21) play GTA III or Simpsons: Hit and Run. The study showed that those who had played GTA III had higher blood pressure and more permissive attitudes towards drug use.
Why does Thompson keep referring to that as the Harvard study? Because he read about it here which talks about two other studies, the aforementioned ESRB accuracy study and a TV violence study, both from Harvard.
As for Indiana, the study used an MRI to look at the difference between the brains of normal kids and kids with disruptive behavioral disorders when playing violent games. The conclusion: kids with DBD have less activity going on in the frontal lobe (decision-making and behavioral control) then kids without DBD when playing violent games. The games used? A racing game and a James Bond game.
“What is his rebuttal to the US Supreme Court case striking down the juvenile death penalty that cited those brain scan studies?”
Probably the fact that that case has zero to do with video games. Did Roper v. Simmons cite these specific studies? No. In fact, near as I can tell, no specific brain scan study was cited period. Got lots of reading time? Hear you go.
“Is he willing to refute the American Psychological Association formal finding that there is a direct causal link between violent video games and teen aggression?”
For the simple reason that it did not find a direct causal link I’d say yes. It’s not a finding, it’s a resolution. It read studies that suggest there may potentially be an increase in aggressive behavior when playing violent games so the APA recommends, in light of this possibility, that children be taught media literacy, the entertainment industry links violent behavior with negative consequences, a content-based ratings system, and that game developers address the possibility of game violence increasing aggressive thoughts and behaviors.
Andrew Eisen
April 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
fyi
that really is jack’s number… call it sometime:
305-666-4366
April 27th, 2007 at 12:37 am
this is too funny.
being a psychology student, video games can be seen in a negative light, considering that even the most remote of actions can “kill” a bad guy. however, ever take into consideration how some games, and most gamers, are above the influence of senseless violence. how video games are not created to be taught that violence is fun. its about goal oriented behavior, about tactics, and about strategy and problem solving.
yes, some of the most popular games available involve projectile weapons, namely guns. however, when we are given goals, problems, situations to understand and solve, are we no different then the police man on the street or a military officer? sure, in a game, there is more action to see. however, the choices are the same. how do we save said person. how do we avoid said conflict.
yes, give a man a gun, he’ll shoot it. but given him a problem, a goal, people to work with, and that man does not see how to kill. he sees how to problem solve, how to avoid a situation, how to work as a team instead of an individual.
if games were really that bad, pong would have made us serial killers.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:26 am
-JP
I did, but he didn’t seem too happy. Might be because I’m in Australia, and I didn’t realise it was 5:20 in the morning for him. :/
Just kept hanging up on me. Again, and again, and again. And again.
April 27th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
jack really is a sad sad little man you would figure for a guy who says he is “a crusader” against gta and other violent games he sure does have a lot of time to file Bs complaints against sites like kotaku and trolling on gp before he was booted out of there.
jack will never grow up and seems to have the mentality which is Treat him with respect and he will treat you however he feels like it.
talk about a child
April 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
It’s “Flack.” The word he’s looking for is “flack,” a derogatory term for a press agent. A mouthpiece; a shill, if you will.
As someone who writes press releases for a living (and an industry flack, to boot!), this makes me cringe in terror. Oh, how I wish to take my red pen to this “release” and clean it up.
These are the people we’re allowing to graduate law school, these days?
April 28th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
sad isnt it?
January 11th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Bet he lost a video game once and made the decision that they were the devil.
Dont get me wrong, i can see where hes coming from at times, but he shouldnt be so extreme as to say ban them all, maybe get the people selling the games to enforce the age ranges alittle more.
I disagree with ignoring this idiot, maybe, just maybe, he’ll come up with something good one day, but thats pretty unlikely.